Interview with Makar el Amwat
Dec 2nd 2009 Patrick Saad Interviews

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The following is an interview by LebMetal with Makar el Amwat, whose members are anonymous. Each member of the band answered the questions on his own way, which we kept intact, without any editing or “enhancing”.

  • Questions

1- How is it like for underground bands? You cannot risk playing on public metal shows and you are obliged to remain a bit non-heard of. (That must be hard to do)

2- Does Makar el Amwat have any recorded material for the fans to listen to ?

3- What’s your ultimate purpose in being an underground band? Some state that the whole idea cannot be implemented fully.

4- What’s the band’s opinion of the local scene? Any recommendations?

5- Any last words for other underground bands and fans of Underground?

  • Answers

1- Legion: This is the name we’ve gone by with for a long time now. In translation, it’s “Where the Dead Reside”. If one has to be more philosophical, where do the dead really go? An underworld waiting to be crossed by the boatman? This underworld soothed us in terms of enjoying not being part of an aggressive system yet also gave us a feeling of being more superior because when one passes away, one ascends into an eternal and ultimate lifeforce.

The name has been labelled with us for a long time now and if you haven’t heard of us, then we kept an outstanding job living to our reputation.

Legion: We do not enjoy labelling so I’ll leave it as “extreme” nothing more nothing less.

Legion: I cannot speak for behalf of other underground bands but for me, it’s been a rite of passage and a journey of self fulfillment. Metal, just like any sort of music, is a way of expressing oneself. The lyrics may be dubbed or termed “wrong” but who is to judge what is right or wrong over my forms of expression?

Why risk if we do not even want to be part of the community on an entire basis? We have performed live however with some of our neighboring countries and you will be surprised how there are other talented bands from Arab origin. These performances, however, were private and included a limited number of the dedicated.

2-Yes, we do, but I doubt anyone loves a primitive phone recording.

3- Yes, the idea is indeed hard to implement but people forget that a band’s key to success is when all members have the same cause, goal and respect for one another. How else would we still be strong after all this time? We travelled and were invited by many others yet we did not even have a penny worth to buy water.

Our goal is simple, let the truth be told easy or hard way and enjoy doing it.

4- Our apologies we know not what goes on nor do we care

5- As a matter of fact I do, I personally wish luck to those who follow a similar path.

*How is it like for underground bands? You cannot risk playing on public metal shows and you are obliged to remain a bit non-heard of. (That must be hard to do)

Vocalist: we don’t really try hard, it comes naturally. most our material is improvised, memorized and executed later and most of it stays between us members.

*Does Makar el Amwat have any recorded material for the fans to listen to?

Vocalist: a few demos

* What’s your ultimate purpose in being an underground band? Some state that the whole idea cannot be implemented fully.

Vocalist: quietly enter the underground scene, create some commotion, leave the people wondering, and then disappear without a trace.

*What’s the band’s opinion of the local scene? Any recommendations?

Vocalist: (.)

*Any last words for other underground bands and fans of Underground?

Vocalist: yep, don’t take yourselves too seriously, ahamma shi.

The only reason we stay “underground” is to avoid labels and scene drama.

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My (stage) name is The raven, i’m the band’s bassist initially… I was supposed to be left out of this interview, I didn’t want to be asked any questions and I personally requested of my fellow bandmates to tell Lebmetal we were actually a 3 piece band, just so I could conceal our goals and visions, but the opportunity to vent out all the things I’ve been bottling up about the scene here in lebanon ever since I started making a living in this goddamn country… was just too sweet to pass off.
All I’ve got to say is…. if this piss-poor excuse for a metal scene is a sign for things to come then i’d rather not think about the future and save me a few headaches… The overgrown meatheads with the Slipknot shirts, the hardcore boys with a libido the size of a fucking asteroid, all these desperate sudden trance-fag-turned-metalhead type guys that try to make a move on me at gigs by flaunting their “knowledge”… all of these people depress me beyond words…
Seeing these kids getting excited over horrible bands, ripping them off by creating an entire EP without even a single shred of creativity, unearthing good death metal bands, covering what they think is “their best material” and believing their projects are on their way to the top by doing so…
…. just talking about all this shit making me sick to my stomach, so i’ll save the detailed description…
From what i’ve heard and seen, nova and lacite are turning into real bullshit dispensers that SOME corporations (won’t name any :)) capitalize on so they could reel in the morons and get in on their cash, the same type of morons you see performing on stage… to think these talentless hipsters actually believe they’re entitled to record and perform in front of an audience…it should be made illegal… i swear that alone is enough to make me want to erase this entire population of fakes you call a “metal scene”, overpopulated with “bands” and every single time one of my mates from the scene updates me about their “band” (and i could care any less), it gives me even more incentive to hate all of you…. because you people just keep running down the spiral staircase… voluntarily! and what pisses me off, is that you even have a fucking method to doing it!:

1- someone starts up an incompetent band,
2- he makes it seem as if he just assembled an all star cast -> publicity
3- two weeks later 3 members pack up and leave,
4- 3 others join,
5- bullshit ensues,
6- and a month from then, the band’s already history,
7- the members seek revenge on their ex-bandmates,
8- more bullshit ensues,
9- same cycle repeats, etc…

tbh, you can keep replaying this routine for as long as you want, but i’ll be damned if i have to go down into the fires of hell with you lot.
I’m backing Kain on this 100%, he and i see eye to eye concerning this issue; even though it’s one of the few things we agree on… that and the fact that we are one of the few out there who have what it takes to survive;
i’m a (pretty, lol) raging ball of hatred and insulting expressions, our drummer is an anti-social misanthropic freak who speaks with his fists, our guitarist is visionnary that will probably go down in history and our vocalist… well our vocalist…he’s a crucial element in the band for other reasons.
We have traveled far away from you people, and personally… i hope to never hear from you again or have to see any of your faces.
The more i stayed there, the more i found out that Lebanon is saturated with a type of corruption that people like us can never stand, i’ve got my whole life and musical career ahead of me, and i won’t tolerate spending it in this kind of shit-hole… effing horrid… ah well, i’m done talking.

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It’s Kain.. and yes we took time to reply back to your interview questions but it’s because i never knew the reason why i should be contributing to the fucked up Lebaneese Metal Scene and give them the answers they seek while they wouldn’t even know how to deal with the scene itself.. and yes i am sorry to make them feel how superior i am it’s because they forced me to become one for as long as i’m still witnessing this scene is going right straight to my garbage can standing outside my door. I kept my music way too pure and way too raw for the Lebaneese Ears to hear.
I’m sorry i won’t accept the fact that i’d share my material online so all the posers in Lebanon would brag about it but nevertheless i won’t be such an asshole and i will deliver maybe a small demo so you’d check out what it feels like to be mad at the world and to be pissed off at the way of living “specially” in such a scene they call it a Metal scene in Lebanon.

And i tell you folks from now : i will never know how to care less about what the Lebaneese Metal scene have to say against this article , i won’t give a shit and i will never bother myself replying back !.. and may the so called big bands such as Kaoteon , Kimeara , PostMortem and so on stay busy waging war against each other corrupting the scene even to the worse like they always did.
And for the other underground bands.. i don’t have anything to say for i know barely about you like you barely know who the hell i am , but i give you much respect for keeping your music clean and pure way far from the hands of those who we detest the most !


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  • hihihi

    posers

  • soulforged

    Alot of respect…
    good job keeping underground and away from the scene

  • SerJ Panossian

    i dont know about this … but i dont believe in underground music … but keep the faith … respect

  • Jason

    Interesting !! PS : Patrick 7esis l vocalist jbeileh ๐Ÿ˜› ” ahamma ” .. Nicely done my man .. i respect this

  • Jad Jawhari

    Respect…

  • abo safinjah al munjali

    you are my favorite pop band! great jungle jings my fellas.. weeeha.

  • bla5 bla5

    3eshneha shway dark secrets w philosophy fadye ma hek ?!

  • bla5 bla5

    and btw no one in the scene gives a damn …nor seeking for ur answers…but u can build some hollywood dreams mesh ghalat…

  • Kaiser

    A friend of mine introduced me to this band and even though the quality was harsh, it was talented material. And for the record Patrick my man, I heard these dudes are not fully lebanese in blood and the members are in AUB. However, I have no proof nor do I care but I think the grammar used speaks well so far =D If you don’t mind me saying you guys did a great job it’s nice to know some people keep the faith =D True believers will respect that! For an underground band coming out to give a point, I like that! Someone message me if ya need a demo (Y) Respect!

    PS – If you guys can get contact with other bands it’ll be appreciated. Peace up

  • Cyanide Symbiot

    “The Raven”? why do u have a “stage” name and you’ve never been there.. and what is guys are trying to get into ur pants? how is that relevant musically ?

    Vocalist(lol) – you improvise ur material(as a vocalist) lol that must be interessting , what do you sing abt ? how cool it is to be underground ?:P

    as for Kain ๐Ÿ˜› its ppl like you who live off your moms mini pizza’s that leeche off motivated musicians that actually go on stage …

    post your own material
    be half as good as the bands/scenes u bash

    and then we have something to talk abt
    Now run along ๐Ÿ˜‰

    -Cyanide

  • Mike

    i want a demo kaiser

  • Hady Naal

    Its very easy to blame people and the local scene . its a fucked up scene i agree but there are a few local bands and shall i say musical minds RAGING with creativity and intelligence , that u makar el amwat dont know about or ddnt even bother learning about. i understand , u got discusted by what the scene had to offer so u thought ukhh just another lebanese bands . i am not here to attack you nor ur beleifs , because i feel the same way that u feel . KAOTEON are not a band to be attacked this way , i am not close to them personaly but i do enjoy their songs and i do respect their lyrics because they are very realistic and down to earth.
    A word of advice , dont bother getting pissed and attacking the scene nor its bands , its a fucked up world , its a fucked up system , its a fucked up society , its a fucked up country … u were able to be overlooking the whole case , other couldnt or havent had the chance to , and some will never be able to and u know what i m talking about … who s to blame ?
    i respect that fact that u created your own vision away from those u hate , atleast ur not kissing any ass . I know that u dont give a fuck about all the comments here and surely not about mine , so all i have to say is good luck doing whatever u are doing .

    P.S :”iโ€™m a (pretty, lol) raging ball of hatred and insulting expressions, our drummer is an anti-social misanthropic freak who speaks with his fists”
    its not something to be proud of ๐Ÿ™‚

    Nice article !
    -Hady

  • Khaled

    i really don’t dig this underground thingy, it sounds fake, and the attitude of the members reminds me of that typical nightchains attitude, again nothing to be proud of. you wanna stay underground fine, but don’t expose yourself to the public, as an underground band, this interview eradicates the whole concept.

  • Underground Poster

    Sub_form Load

    Start Underground = True

    I felt inspired by this article , to post as an underground poster. ( hopefully by the end of this article, you would realize how ridiculous and silly that concept is)

    First of all, Metal , or whatever you guys do is music. Music = various notes enchained.
    To me makar el amwat is not a band. Underground or not, to me, I don’t see music anywhere.
    Now if you’re one of these people who will start saying that metal is about lyrics and bullshit,
    then I advice you to go write a book instead. Very simple equation : Music = notes.

    So where does this get us ? RIGHT, 75 % of your responses = Bullshit :
    Not backed up by any proof, childish accusations, flames and band trollings …

    Not very suprised, the metal scene is 80 % made of bashers…

    Second of all, I don’t even have a f*** second of all because you are s***.

    I don t respect you , nor will respect anything you will say , you are not better than those lebanese
    bullshitters.

    Underground = False

    EndSub

    Now with the visual basic code above, Hopefully I demonstrated how ridiculous it is to be underground.

  • Jad Jawhari

    For everything there is a definition in the dictionary and a definition that people make up…so it is all in reality relative… to some people this is music although it deviates from the theory, but nevertheless they feel that the band is making music. So in reality you can’t bash them or in other words they expect that people will respond that way. I respect them and i support their underground movement.

  • Kaiser

    You guys noticed by arguing if you support or not, you’re giving them guys a point -__- Most people who do not support this clearly has never been outside the lebanese Metal scene and that is eXcusable. Those fews names that supported this article I recognize as people who I would bow my head to their opinions such as Hady or Jad Jawhari but here we are missing something and not because you have a band means you’re gonna feel offended that’s just sad! These guys wanted to prove a point I don’t see why everyone is arguing >_> By the way do some research about these guys before you start judging because it seems everyone got bored of Ayaat or Daamar or whatever =D We’re all in this together if we don’t support ourselves we either migrate to the shadows or we find a solution, right ya’ll? Full Respect

  • Underground Poster

    It’s ridiculous. I like you guys, I don’t want you to be ridiculous. That’s it.

  • Adon

    lol @ Cyanide
    I kinda agree with you but wouldn’t direct it in the manner you did.

    Anyway, people really don’t know what does “underground” really means.It doesn’t mean “veiled”.

  • Jad Jawhari

    Well this a reply from the “this cynical professor”. Logic my friend can be define in many ways and can be used in many different ways. And my philosophy is relativisim which is a philosophy adapted by the sophists. Now, i am not going to justify my logic I was just merely stressing on the point that Logic isn’t universal, on the contrary it can take many forms. Now back to the music thing, the way you are arguing can be disproved. If you are saying that music is only about notes and theory then you are refuting that tribal music is MUSIC. Now that would be contradictory since most of the early music genres were inspired by tribal music and no one can deny this fact. Another thing i have to add which is rather amusing, you have “the underground poster” as your name, your real name and identity is not give to us, so relative to us you are some underground figure, since you aren’t revealing your identity ;). You can’t say they are posers just because you don’t understand the music, or understand what “underground” is all about. As i have seen you have no respect for anyone and you think that you know it all. I have a hard time talking to people like you because I know that I won’t get anywhere. So let this be a conclusion to our “so-called” debate

  • Kaiser

    Just like what Jad said you come in raging thinking you know it all and all I did was just simply give my opinion and then you went crying top 10 worst black metal bands on youtube. Very good you know how to search your browser and attack without any logic and it’s people like you that disrupt the scene bashing other peoples’ opinions…but like Jad said, we won’t get anywhere with you ya tough guy so good day and enjoy your god moding ๐Ÿ˜‰

  • Khaled

    Dear kaiser, we understood from your reply that you are way ahead of your fellow lebanese metalheads, and we are just a bunch of local ignorant lebanese metalheads that just hatched from the egg, a very egomaniac statement i must say, coming from a 16-17 years old metalhead, yes age hence experience plays a major role.

    If your correctly read my statement and my logical argument you wouldn’t have replied the way you did, yes this interview eradicates the whole concept of being underground, why? i’ll tell you why.

    First this website could be considered as the most successful lebanese metal website, and it’s viewed daily by hundreds of lebanese metalheads and foreigners as well, now what, the whole(let’s not exaggerate) lebanese metal scene knows that such band exists, now what? the band failed to keep its underground mentality and identity(not good, not good for an underground band)