Thumbs up to the review. I couldnt agree more.
mr. bahaa i appreciate bands who work on originals and those who dont get trapped in playing covers but on the other hand making originals cant revolve around one single progression for the same old school style …its called old school that was THEIR wave ….YOUR WAVE is different u have to add ur 2011 spirit to ur music to have the pleasure of calling it MY MUSIC AT LEAST !! they made this music bcz they were in the 80′s you are in a different generation u cant make 80′s music in 2011 u can have them as influences but u definetly need to add the touch of ur generation to ur music …
I would like to point out to the commentators that a review is a critique and a critique can be both negative, positive or both at the same time!
couldn’t agree more with Djeje sawda…name me a pure heavy metal band international that came out during like the 15-20 years? none! sure u have band that are influenced by heavy metal but all these bands added something new that’s why these days u find so many genres and styles in metal. Big labels these days aren’t interested in a pure old school heavy metal band…in the end it’s just my opinion and i wish them luck for future events!!
as for the sound it was shitty especially 3a Level 7 they were unlucky and the other guitarist kept facing problems with his pedal…
Blynd were gr8 and the sound quickly got better on their turn…a pro band with some gr8 modern heavy tunes
djeje sawda, you are wrong on more levels than i can count.
People play the music they want because they want to. Every band is free to play the music it wants! Some bands want to play old school becaue they feel it is the music era that defines them others don’t!
exactly as jad said , we are influenced with old school heavy metal ,that’s exactly why we are playing metal at all ,and we made our originals that way only adding our twist to it i think u can c that in dollared lady and flying high,if you guys think that our originals aren’t our own that’s fine ,but that’s how we intended it to be
la7za no1 said anything abt ur originals iza ur own or not … dont put my speech into certain issues that i never mentioned …wala elet u cant play old school heavy metal … elet iza u find it so perfect as it is so listen to it at home cz makin originals is adding nothing to its awesomeness ( and thats in ur point of view ) hihihi prove me wrong
first of all ,ma3am bifham leshe 3am tit7addeneh ya3neh
” hihihi prove me wrong ” 2nd of all ,thats the music that we enjoy and the music that we play and i dont think we need to add anything new to it because this is how it was when we loved this music ,there is anothers types of music that musicians can add some new things to it , and btw just to add a new point ,if u listen to any new bands that added anything new to the old skool heavy metal ull find that its not as beautiful as it was in the old days ,even judas priest new albums or metallica although metallica arnt a heavy metal band .so i think u should be getting my point now. and one more thing,i dont think ur a fan of old skool heavy metal, so i dont think u will exactly know what we are experiancing
Oblivion is a good old school heavy metal band but from a musician’s point of view, I just can’t see where you are able to put in your own style into the songs when you’re following the ‘old school’ progression and song structure by the book: the riffing style, the scale choice, the riff/chorus/solo structure applied with no variation at all.
By the way, I gotta say that what’s on Level7′s EP sounds better than their live show.
About the whole ‘music defines them’ issue that Jad stated, I believe it’s a matter of music evolution and I guess as metalheads start to listen to more ‘evolved’ genres than heavy metal, they develop a need to see more technicality, musicianship and creativity from bands. Remember that back then in the 70′s / 80′s, heavy metal listeners considered ‘rock fans’ to be softies, and thrash metalheads considered heavy metal to be a soft version of thrash and so on. I’m not saying that you should go with the flow of the current age, but the only way to revive an old style is to simply mix it with another interesting one and see what happens.
concerning the supposed need to “evolve with the times”:
there’s no way to say what i have to say without writing a lengthy essay but i will try to summarize my thoughts
-lebanese bands or at least the ones we are discussing do not create music as a full-time job, it is a hobby.
-people with music as a ‘hobby’ are not able to create some new style (due to not having enough expertise/musical education) or break musical boundaries and therefore have to stick to copying a style.
-copying a modern style does not make them any more ground-breaking than copying an old school style. they think old school music is better and are therefore satisfied with copying it.
in conclusion, the “evolve with the times” argument only applies to bands that consider music a full-time job, bands that are able to push the limits of their music in new unexplored directions. using that argument to persuade bands to copy a new style (you’re copying either way) instead of an old one is plain retarded.
i hope i got my point across.
There are no rules for playing music!! If someone wants to form AN OLD SCHOOL METAL/ROCK band that person has the right to do so! Ma 7ada 2elo ma3o, it is a personal choice. W kil wa7ad bye7ki min wejhet nazar inno howe a musician. W old school mish ya3ni to “imitate” bands it is about the era and about the feel to the music/
ya3neh halla2 hihihi toli3 ma3ak inno we are not creating anything new la2an we’re not taking music as a full-time job ??. bi2dir 2ifham minnak inno law my band spends 8 hours of practice kill youm our heavy metal biseer fee new school breakdowns masalan ??
bff man please dont underestimate old school heavy metal non of you guys know what it really means ,its just mala2o wala flaw bi oblivion yi7ko 3leh so baddon yi7ko 3an el music style just cuz the writer of this article is not into heavy metal that’s the only reason
Bahaa.. le m3ala2 3a fekra w meshe fiya.. im a old school heavy metal fan.. bas fham shaghle eno el 3alam zeh2it men this style.. bas el fekra eno u have to evolve, w msh ma3neta t7et breakdowns aw shi.. bas ento mankon creative?! ma fikon tzido shi jdid?! walla khls bet 3al2o 3a hal style. w shu azdak “male2o walla flaw b oblivion ye7ko 3ale, sar bdon ye7ko 3an el music style” :S?! enta bta3rif ba3ed bdkon ktr sheghel?! hayda ahyan style el shakhes yel3abo man.. ba3den w3i w ntebeh eno alot of people byetmaskharo 3aleykon.. why bas 3andkon fans mnel 7amra, ur area?! w ba3den honestly speaking ur demo is shit.. the vocals need alot of work.. dnt take it personally, bas take -ve reviews in concideration in order to progress.. peace
awalan.. in my point of view .. which all of u should respect i dnt respect nor take into consideration this review!:) 1st becoase its niether proffesional ..nor coming out of a proffesional person(im talkin abt critisizing proffesion)! sound probs are nt our fault .. 5 minutes of soundcheck is not enough for a good sound right?!:) second i think u should expand ur reseraches about brazilian thrash metal..soulfly ektomorf are pure brazilian thrash metal bands! guitars were fckd up one drop c another one standart d if u know what i mean ofcource:) !anw im nt commenting la barrer shi ..like i said ma behemna abadan the fckd up reviews which lack encouragement for the bands nd the scene ..thanks!:D
Patrick is actually a very good reviewer
he knows more about music than you, I can assure that. If a review is a negative one it doesn’t mean it’s a bad review only because it is against a band that you play in. From what it seems, you are the one that is not professional just look at your reply
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nareg as an objective opionion I would say that there is no concert reviewing school that gives a eeview degree for one to be considered a professional reviewer . My friend patrick plays an instrument , played live several time with his band , have seen more than 50 gig to say the least and has reviewed at least 20 . So as in “professional” that should be enough to review starting bands .
As for 5 min soundcheck ,that is a problem u should solve like “dont go on stage” the event organiser should beter organise .
Tuning C … What is that ? … heh
As any metalhead i expect to go to concerts that are improving in quality. I expect to see bands improving in performance. If they want to improve I expect them to shrink their ego and absorb the constructive criticism .
We are working to show the world that we have an active good scene,but first we must proove that we are honest people working on ourselves to become better .
If this is judged as “khitab” its an objective one.
“ya3neh halla2 hihihi toli3 ma3ak inno we are not creating anything new la2an we’re not taking music as a full-time job ??”
yes, mish you’re not, you can’t. the only way you can “evolve” (by evolve i mean the idea of evolution that is being discussed in this thread, which is far from its real meaning) is by imitating new waves, but that would be devolving in my opinion.
i was actually defending you and your point of view on old school heavy metal by the way (regardless of the fact that i dislike old school heavy metal). you either didn’t get my point or have reading comprehension problems.
shu baddak fi patrick ma b7ayeto semi3 brazillian thrash
about the old school heavy metal thing
in the 1980′ it was called heavy metal but now we caLL IT OLD SCHOOL coz it’s old and it had been pushed to the limits /
now in 2000′ u cant make a new original old school song coz it will be a copy of somthing was done and u dont have the copy right to do it
(bil mokhtas l old school heavy metal n7alab 3al ekhir houwe w kil l melody taba3o w 7ata law 7ada le2a chi melody jdide 3emil song 3anna ma7ada 7ay7eba metel ma bi 7eb l edem)
Nareg: Ektomorf are hungarians:P
w serge: Gd point couldn’t agree more
i repeat ..its my point of view which u all should respect.. nd abt the negative review .. ma shefet la hala2 any positive review abt any band
! nd da32oor 7abibe albe 3omre 7ayete enta
FOR THE LASTT TIMEE Brazilliann thrash metal is a genre!its not that the band iss brazillian or whatever! nd jad or whoever u are how can u judge me if u dnno me:) how do u know if he knows about music more than me :O!dumb ppl make me laugh:)and about the gigs nd review in 20 concerts and stuff..it doesnt make any one proffesional dude!trust me on this!check out jorzine magazines review!ya3ne if they said we did a gr8 cover of territory nd patrick said we didnt ..who should i believe:O!? and about the tunings it seems u dnt understand anything abt guitars nd stuff so its okey i forgive u:P! about egoism Dude Wtf :O we dnt think we are a perfect band or any shit but give us some respect after every concert negative reviews come out!enno at leastu know what happend with the band we went onstage on 1 ..which was expected to be at 11! the strings of the two guitars broke on the first song!u expect to give our best?! anyway thanks for replying nd giving me the chancce to clear out some stuff
!with all respect to jad nd patrick
!thanks
7:18 am
i would like to point out some things that u came up with in this review
about oblivion doing something new something of our own
I think you can realize that we are an old school heavy metal band,and i think old school heavy metal is at its best so it doesnt need any one to be added anything new its just perfect as it is, we are only adding out style of songs which are also old school heavy metal tunes, so i did not exactly get your point of adding anything new to OLD SCHOOL HEAVY METAL.